An argument on motivating reasons
I wrote this a while back, and Errol Lord reminded me of it. I'm not sure if it's sound: thoughts more than welcome.
"I went home because my house was on fire."
"I went home because I believed my house was on fire."
It appears that the first sentence is more apt when it is true that my house was on fire. Conversely, the second sentence is more apt when it is false that my house was on fire.
Most people assume that all actions should be explained the same way: Either by beliefs, or by things believed. Further, most people assume that people cannot act because of things that are not the case (you can't go home because your house is on fire if your house is not, in fact, on fire). From these assumptions, it seems to follow that all actions should be explained by agents' beliefs. That is, motivating reasons are identical to agents' beliefs.
(I'm going to talk only about beliefs, and not their usual partner desire. I suspect the same points could be made with respect to desire if the necessary changes were made.)
This argument is supported by the assumption that one cannot act for something that is not the case. But if agents can be mistaken about their beliefs, then this premise actually supports the claim that beliefs cannot be reasons either. Perhaps one must act because of one’s beliefs about one’s beliefs. But if one can be mistaken about one’s beliefs about one’s beliefs, then... A regress seems to ensue.
Let me explain this more fully with an example. Let’s imagine that I make a bet with a friend that heavier objects fall faster than lighter ones. I state that my reason for such a bet is that heavier objects do, in fact, fall faster than lighter ones. We can imagine an onlooker reasoning: "Alex’s reason for this bet cannot be that heavier objects fall faster than lighter ones. This is because that is not the case. So his reason must be his believing that heavier objects fall faster than lighter ones (this reason does not justify his action: it is a motivating, not a normative, reason)".
But now we complicate the story. When I was at school when I was younger, I learnt that heavier and lighter objects fall at the same rate. When I made the bet, I had forgotten this fact. But, in most other contexts in my life, let’s imagine that I act as though they do fall at the same rate. Indeed, if someone other than my friend – with whom I have a very antagonistic relationship – suggested that objects fall at the same rate regardless of their weight, I would agree with them. In this case, it seems at least somewhat plausible to suppose that I do not, in fact, believe that heavier objects fall faster than lighter ones.
In light of this fact, the onlooker must revise her reasoning. "Alex’s reason for this bet cannot be his belief that heavier objects fall faster than lighter ones. This is because he has no such belief. So his reason must be his believing that he has a belief that heavier objects fall faster than lighter ones".
But this is absurd. First, if I complicated the example further (don't worry, I won't!), then we can imagine the onlooker being forced to conclude that my reason must be my belief that I believe that I believe that heavier objects fall faster than lighter ones, and so on. In fact, there may be some sufficiently complex case where the regress is infinite. Then, assuming that all actions have the same kind of explanation, then all actions should be explained by some infinite regress of beliefs. This cannot be correct. Second, even at this simple stage this is clearly implausible. If it was implausible to suppose that beliefs were motivating reasons, it is even more implausible to suppose that our motivating reasons are our beliefs about our beliefs.
An objector might suggest that where I have gone wrong is in the assumption that a person could be mistaken about their beliefs. But most agree that this is possible for desires, so why not with beliefs?
In summary, if things believed cannot be motivating reasons because they are sometimes, despite what the agent thinks, not the case, then beliefs cannot be reasons either, because they are also sometimes, despite what the agent thinks, not believed.

Errol Lord said: "the
Errol Lord said:
"the argument for the conclusion that beliefs are motivating reasons you cite in the other post is really lousy. It's something like this:
(1) All motivating reasons are constituted by the same type of thing.
(2) It's sometimes felicitous to say 'He phi-ed because he believed that the house was on fire.'
(C) Therefore, motivating reasons are constituted by beliefs.
The problem with this argument is that [we can capture (2) in terms of implicature rather than truth]"
Ok, so my argument in the post was that one argument sometimes touted in favour of the view that beliefs are reasons is actually an argument against that view. Here, you've suggested that their argument is unsound for a second reason.
But I think you might have been unfair to their argument. It's not merely that we sometimes say that beliefs are reasons: their argument is that, since the targets of beliefs can't be reasons (where the target is understood as a fact, state of affairs, or similar), that leaves the beliefs themselves as the only candidate remaining.
I assume that you don't think that these options are exhaustive, since we might think that targets of beliefs are reasons and that beliefs target propositions, not facts. You're certainly right that this is an interesting possibility worth exploring. But I don't think it's fair to call this argument lousy for this reason, even if it is eventually unsound.
Why say this? Well, because I think it's natural to assume that beliefs target facts and not propositions. Given that assumption, the argument is potentially sound: it gives two options, and rules out one, leaving us with the truth. But why assume that beliefs target facts? Because there is something odd in thinking that propositions are the targets of beliefs. When I suspect the butler did it, what I suspect is the butler, and not some proposition about him. Equally, if I hope that God exists, my hope is about God, and not about a proposition. If this is true for these intentional attidues, it must also be true for beliefs.
Of course, this natural understanding of things might be wrong (to be honest, my philosophy of mind isn't good enough to judge). But an argument that proceeds from some natural intuitive assumptions and gets a surprising conclusion seems to me to be one worth investigating.
So on the assumption that propositions are not targets of beliefs, their argument is that there are only two possible candidates for what motivating reasons are, and one of these doesn't cut it. As I say (and argue!) I don't think this is eventually sound. But I do wonder if it's not quite bad enough to be called lousy.
Alex
I misunderstood your
I misunderstood your argument in favor of the beliefs-as-motivating-reasons view. Do you know of anyone who advances this argument? The common argument for the view that I've seen (in, e.g., Practical Reality) is the argument I mention in the previous comment. Note, also, that my argument wasn't primarily supposed to favor the propositional view over the other views. It was primarily supposed to show that there are principles that everyone accepts that already explain why it's sometimes felicitous to say 'He phi-ed because he believed psi.' The other part of the argument (about the Gricean maxims) was supposed to show that the data couldn't possibly support the beliefs-as-motivating-reasons view in the way the original argument suggests. That's because it won't ever be felicitous to say 'He phi-ed because he believed psi' when psi is true. You will always violate a Gricean maxim when you utter something in that form when psi is true.
But the argument you offer is different. That's not to say that my argument doesn't bear on whether it's true. The second half of the argument is what matters. If the second part of my argument is on the right track, then the beliefs-as-motivating-reasons view has some explaining to do. Namely, they have to either (1) argue that it's not true that it's never felicitous to say 'He phi-ed because he believed psi' when psi is true, or (2) he has to tell us why the infelicity isn't a problem.
About the propositions: I have a hunch that the reason your argument in favor of the beliefs-as-motivating-reasons view isn't prevalent is that no one really wants to deny that the objects of belief are propositions (Dancy seems like he is forced to do this, but he really doesn't want to). I am unmoved by your appeal to intuition for a simple reason: You can still say that the object of your hope is about God, for the proposition is about God. You can still say that you suspect the butler, for the proposition is about the butler. There are lots of theoretical advantages to the view as well (I won't go into that here, but suggest that you read the SEP entries on 'Belief' and 'Propositions').
Sorry, that's probably my
Sorry, that's probably my fault for a poor expression of the argument.
For the argument, try Dancy's Moral Reasons, p256, where he attributes the argument to Williams:
"The idea here, as Williams puts it, is that 'the false/true distinction cannot affect the form of the appropriate explanation.' Suppose that a fact is offered in explanation of an action. We know that the agent would have acted whether that fact obtained or not, so long as she retained the relevant belief. So what explains her action is not so much the fact believed as the belief. Belief-based explanation will be always of the same form, whether the belief is true or not. I do not accept this argument; it is a switching argument, as are all versions of the argument from illusion, and as such suspect."
I don't quite understand the argument about Gricean maxims. These maxims are about pragmatics, rather than truth, right? So why can't the Williams-type figure above just agree that it's never felicitious to say that "he did X because he believed P" when P is true, but just claim it's true nonetheless?
Thanks, I'll have a read on propositions.
Alex
OK, I take it back, I have
OK, I take it back, I have seen the argument.
I don't quite understand the argument about Gricean maxims. These maxims are about pragmatics, rather than truth, right? So why can't the Williams-type figure above just agree that it's never felicitious to say that "he did X because he believed P" when P is true, but just claim it's true nonetheless?
Right, so if one were to do this, she would be opting for my second route. But foot-stomping isn't enough. She needs to somehow explain the unassertability of the relevant propositions. A parallel is seen with Moore's Paradox:
Moore's Paradox: It's raining but I don't know it.
Obvious Moore's Paradox can be true. But it's unassertable. The reason it's a paradox is because it's hard to explain why it's unassertable. It's simply not enough to point out that it's true. We need an explanation of why it's never correct to assert it. The same goes for the beliefs-as-motivating-reasons view. They need to explain why it's not assertable. (Also, I think you can parlay all of this data into an argument against the view as well).